Tech Exec Wellness Podcast: Conversations to Reignite Your Soul

75 Hard, Zing AI, Peloton, The Gateway Experience and Cybersecurity Insights with Melissa Sanford and Paige Hanson

Melissa Sanford

Get ready to transform your summer wellness journey and cybersecurity knowledge with Melissa Sanford and her special guest, Paige Hansen! Paige has returned from a rejuvenating family vacation in the Ozarks, and she's diving into the latest fitness trend: the 75 Hard challenge. Paige shares her rigorous fitness regimen, including two daily workouts, gallons of water, and a no-cheat meal policy. She's also navigating shin splints and integrating Peloton workouts into her routine, all while discussing our favorite Peloton instructors, Ally Love, Robin Arzon, and Matt Wilpers. 

Next, we embark on a journey through the Gateway Experience, an advanced meditation technique developed by Robert Monroe and even explored by the CIA. This isn't your typical meditation—learn how the use of energy conversion boxes, resonant humming, and affirmations sets this technique apart and can elevate your mindfulness practice. We highlight the life-changing benefits and enhanced creativity of this unique technique while also touching on the frequency of data breaches that affect us all.

As we wrap up, we delve into staying cyber-resilient, especially during summer travels. From losing an Apple Watch to safeguarding personal information while on the go, we share practical tips and personal anecdotes to keep you secure. We also discuss setting financial threshold notifications and protecting your devices from hacking. Discover our media favorites like Paige's favorite channel,  SiriusXM's 90s on Nine, and upcoming horror movies, alongside Melissa's book recommendation, "Not Too Late: The Power of Pushing Limits at Any Age" by Gwendolyn Bounce. Don't miss this blend of wellness tips, meditation insights, and cybersecurity advice!

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Speaker 1:

Hello and welcome back to another episode of the Tech Except Wellness podcast. This is Melissa and I have a friend and guest back again, ms Paige Hansen. Paige hello.

Speaker 2:

Hey, melissa, thanks for having me.

Speaker 1:

We're going to have what is called a summer check-in. We've had a lot of guests, We've talked about fitness recipes working out, and I thought what we do today is both talk about business how things are going and wellness and fitness. So, Paige, I'm going to hand it over to you. What are you up to?

Speaker 2:

Well, let's see what am I up to. We had just got off a family vacation. We went to the Ozarks. Have you, have you ever?

Speaker 1:

No, is it beautiful.

Speaker 2:

It is beautiful. I mean, it's lake life and, by the way, I'm probably maybe the only person that hasn't seen Ozarks on Netflix, but I hear it's nothing like the actual show. So that's good.

Speaker 1:

It's a good show, by the way.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it is. So it had the lake life there, which was cool. But from a business perspective, I'm in the business, I have my own company when it comes to compliance, so it just seems like that that isn't going away, and so making some really great connections and data breaches certainly help the business not necessarily protecting people's identities being compromised but it's certainly opportunity to educate not only businesses but consumers, and I really thrive in that arena, so it's been really good.

Speaker 1:

Now, what are you doing from a wellness perspective? Any new recipes, any new fitness routines? What are you doing?

Speaker 2:

You know I was inspired. I was one of your first guests on the Tech Exec Wellness Class podcast and I've been really enjoyed all of the guests so far and I'll tell you it inspired me to just take it up a notch and a level because I think I was. You know I was being active, but not necessarily as maybe active as I once was or could be. So I decided to embark on a challenge called 75 hard. So have you heard it? No, I'm interested though.

Speaker 2:

Okay, yeah, so 75 hard it's. It's. It's more like I think the creator doesn't want it to be called a wellness challenge. I think it's more of a mental toughness. Um, it's not supposed to be easy or convenient, and so what it consists of is two 45 minute workouts a day. One of them has to be outdoors and they cannot be back to back. You need to drink a gallon of water a day, read 10 pages of nonfiction. Stick to a diet, any diet, stick to it. And then no cheat meals and no alcohol. And so I mean I thought it was great.

Speaker 2:

I mean, of course, it was challenging during, you know, getting your workouts in. I remember it being mother's day and you know I thought it was great. I mean, of course, it was challenging during, getting your workouts in. I remember it being Mother's Day and I'm doing my first workout at 3 pm and then doing my second workout at 9.30 pm. It definitely was challenging on some days, but overall I mean I feel great. I have a newer foundation of what exercise I want to do and the kind of the diet I want to to have. And then also just the no alcohol part for 75 days. Uh, for me was a change in my lifestyle. So I needed it, I needed it and um I'm really glad I did it.

Speaker 1:

How did you find this? Because I've I've heard other people do it. Is it hard to keep?

Speaker 2:

other people do it, Is it hard to keep, I guess, your body just um injury free, Right? So I was inspired by a good friend of mine, Tammy Neely, and she had done it. Oh, I believe she's on her third time that she's done it and it was very inspirational. It was not only seeing her posts, but her being a good friend of mine just saying how good she feels and how the regimen was really a positive point in her life, and so that's what inspired me to do it. But then, yeah, I mean your body was a firm believer. I use the Peloton app, so not only just the biking portion and I know you have Peloton as well, but I love the app and the programs and they really encourage you to do stretching after every, and I took that to heart and I have been a kind of a non-stretcher athlete for such a good part of my life.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and you're just like oh, I'm good, I'm good, but really it's an important part. Working out and being injury-free I did experience. I had shin splints. Working out and being injury free Did experience. I had shin splints. I took it too hard on the treadmill for multiple days in a row and had to back off and do kind of some biking and find other workouts. But got through that. But stretching was a big part of that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it really is. As we get older and stuff it's recommended. Who do you work out with on Peloton? I'm curious to know. Who do I work out with on Peloton? I'm curious to know. Who do I work out with.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I know Well, I love Rebecca of her workouts. I'm a big Ali fan. Cody Rigsby is also. He's a hoot, I think so. And then you know, I had my white girl moves when I did some dance workouts on there. I tried it. I was like you know what dance workouts on there. I tried it. I was like you know what I'm going to do it. You know these Emma and Cody are making these amazing moves and I'm like I'm trying this, I'm trying this. So it actually got me out of my comfort zone too and trying some just new workouts that I normally wouldn't do.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that's really cool. I like Matt Wilpers and, oh my goodness, yeah, I can't think of her name now, but I did some rolling classes with her and you know what? It's late, it's 4 pm and you know what, after two o'clock my brain just starts. You know we're going toward the end of the day, but I really love Matt Wilber's. Robin Arzone is amazing. I love Allie Love. She's so inspirational.

Speaker 2:

Oh, Allie Love yes.

Speaker 1:

Yes, oh, allie Love yes.

Speaker 2:

Yes, oh yeah, and Jess King. I really like Jess King, she is amazing, and then Ben Aldiss is too. I actually did a strength program with Ben Aldiss. So it's like this strength for you class. So it's four weeks and I thought that was really cool because it's for four days a week and you're committing to something for a period of time and I definitely went up in my weight over the from a strength training perspective, the amount of weight I was doing from the beginning. So I will now they have a strength for you to program. So I'll be I'll be starting that on Monday.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that's awesome. Well, I started with this app called zing and what they do is okay. I think I downloaded the app months ago and I'm like oh, whatever. And I was doing the Peloton and I'm somebody. I like a lot of variety. So I said what the hell, I'm going to do this.

Speaker 1:

So the first thing I did is I put on my I don't know my spandex pants whatever the hell you want to call them with the tank top, and I did the body scan. What I loved about that is it pinpointed okay, do you want to gain muscle? Do you want to lose weight? What's your objective? And I like it because it did the body scan and then, based off that, it would say do you have any injuries? And you know I do. So I put all this in and it customized a workout plan for me. So I'm interested in what you're doing, but I'm doing this for now, and a lot of that consists of heavyweight training. I was looking up is HIIT going to be beneficial? Am I going to have injuries, et cetera. But I think I found a good balance here, with a little bit of cardio and a lot of weight training.

Speaker 2:

See, that's incredible because I will say, when I you know, listening to the tech exec, well, you know the podcast and not sometimes it's about knowing where to start. You know, you hear these, these people that are killing it at work, and they got a wellness journey and you don't know where to start. That would be really nice for you know, to kind of have this tailored workout program based off of your goals, without feeling, you know, if you don't want to talk to a trainer or talk, you know, talk to someone, and so that seems really accessible.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I like it a lot. My only beef is and maybe they've improved it, because I did reach out to their developer. I said how come I can't mirror this to a TV? Because I have a flat screen in my workout room and with Peloton, the app which I love, you can just totally go to the app on the TV and it's so immersive your classes right there. I wish that it had that capability, but for now I'm going to use my iPhone. It's in front of me and again I'm lifting weights and I utilize Spotify because there's no music. So I've got. I've been listening to the Tortured Poets Society or Department TTPD. I know the Swifties are going to get mad at me, but I've been listening to that and it's kind of. You know what? It makes me so mindful, because it's not like techno, it's not crazy music, but it's so. I'm so mindful, I'm so present. I don't know if that makes any sense.

Speaker 2:

It makes sense and I seriously I go to you now for my my music, what I should be listening to. You've definitely opened my. You know it was just things that I didn't realize I was interested in and I'll go and I'll write it down during a podcast and check it out and it's been really helpful, so thanks.

Speaker 1:

No thanks. I know Erica and I, we, we talk about techno and stuff and all that other stuff, but I think when I'm doing the workouts I really want to just be slow and intentional, as you know, with weights, right, you can't just like jump in and you know, do um, what do they call it? Evons or whatever it is.

Speaker 1:

But I really just want to focus on yeah, yeah, I want to focus on the um. You know how well I'm doing it, so I really just want to pay attention to that. I don't want to injure myself, because I think, where I'm at right now, if I get injured, it's going to be a long time to recover.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, you know Ben, all this on his program on Peloton is a firm believer. He, you know he's, you know, says it over and over again it's it's about your form and it's not about you know getting all the reps. It's really about your form and the slow you know like slower reps. I mean, I know there's a, there's a purpose for doing things quickly and versus slow, but I feel like for the first time it really saw a difference in just building muscle based off that philosophy. So that was. It was pretty cool.

Speaker 1:

You know, I don't know, I don't know if I told you this, but after having Jason on the show, I kind of pivoted to a vegetarian diet. It took a little bit to get used to and I have felt I'm thriving on it. What are you doing as far as like your nutrition? Anything neat, unique?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, for me. I'm on, I'm using my fitness pal and I'm still following the, the 75 hard, which I chose, a calorie deficit and I've sort of you know certain amount of protein to get in, and so on. I do a lot of salads, but I love salads with chicken and I try to find different meals that have a lot of protein in it. But really I'm just sticking to the tracking of the meals as best I can and then just having that calorie deficit to get where I eventually don't want to be. I'm so close, I'm so close.

Speaker 1:

Oh, you'll do it and that's the thing. You find out what's going to work for you. You're going to see a lot of progress, because I think doing cardio exclusively you're not going to see the results, and for me, I want to see results. Using the app like zing heavyweights I'm getting leaned out and I'm my. My arms are looking pretty good. I want them to look like a tune day. I don't know if you ride with her a whole time.

Speaker 2:

But she's do. I want those arms. Yeah, if you want your butt kit, go to go to tune days classes. Uh, she, I don't know if she has her. Light classes are probably like a instructor's heavy class.

Speaker 1:

Oh for sure, for sure.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I'm actually so. I'm training for the Grand Canyon. I'm doing rim to rim in the fall and that's 24 miles depending on how we go down, but it's 24 to 26. And it's 26 if you walk your behind once you get to the top, to the lodge, which is two miles away, which we will do, and so I did it last year. It was incredible. I did focus a lot more on time on my feet and hiking and more cardio type stuff, and that this year I am incorporating more weight training plus the cardio and time on my feet and hours long walk or hike or something like that. I'm really excited to see the difference between the two years. I'm pretty excited for this.

Speaker 1:

That's really cool. Well, I want to pivot here for a second and I want to know have you started doing any meditation?

Speaker 2:

No, I haven't. I haven't. You know what, melissa, it is. I tell you I have a list. I have a personal list and a work list and the personal list is now. I do the affirmations, daily affirmations, and that's one of the first things you, erica, and I were. The affirmations, daily affirmations, and that's one of the first things you, erica, and I were talking about is these daily affirmations. I do those and I actually one of my friends got these stickers you can put anywhere, but I have it on my mirror and I've got a couple of these stickers and I have that along with some daily affirmation. But I do need to incorporate the meditation. I know how much I mean. You, you rave about it. Right, like to incorporate the meditation.

Speaker 1:

I know how much I mean you, you rave about it, right, like it's your jam. Yeah Well, I've taken it up a notch. There's this thing called the gateway experience. So, without getting into a lot of detail, just giving a highlight and I'm probably not going to do it justice, but to me it takes meditation to another level and I think what I was finding is I was finding it hard to literally just be still.

Speaker 1:

I'm a person, I like guided meditation, but I also like things, and I think you know this from me now. I want results. I don't want to just do it, to do it. I started as a gateway experience. It was Robert Monroe who created it, the CIA did it. Gateway experience it was Robert Monroe who created it, the CIA did it, and the objective is to remote view and to also kind of go into your quantum field for like manifestation. I had done the whole program. It took a lot. I was doing a session every day. But I will tell you this since I've done it, my calmness, I don't have anxiety, my blood pressure has lowered, I have tuned my body into just being mindful, making the right decisions, and there's even sessions within this program If you need to go in and solve problems or whatever it kind of takes you through that, and I think that's really remarkable.

Speaker 1:

The first thing you do in this is you get into what's called an energy conversion box. In the beginning of it, I think a lot of us that have tried to meditate in the past. You know, the monkeys are playing in your brain, right. What am I going to make for dinner? How am I going to get on my flight or not? How am I going to get on my flight? But what am I going to take on my trip? And this energy conversion box is designed for you to put any concerns, anything that's bothering you, into this box. The next step is called resonant humming and this is where you breathe in with your eyes closed and you breathe out with your eyes open.

Speaker 1:

What that does is that puts your body in a state of resonance, and then there's an affirmation. Is that put your body in a state of resonance and then there's an affirmation? We just talked about affirmations. I am more than my physical body, so I have been doing a lot of reading over the last year and I did not know this, but a lot of things are created from your thoughts. In this there's hemi-syncing. What this does is it kind of syncs up both.

Speaker 1:

I'm not a doctor, we're not doctors. This isn't medical advice, but what it does is it get your brain like firing on. You know different things. There's a pink and white noise that you hear, and for me, I listened to this before I go to sleep. The last thing is oh, one more thing the energy balloon. What you're doing is you're protecting yourself and what this does is, when you're going into meditation or any type of I don't know where you're getting out of consciousness or whatever you want, to make sure that you are high vibrational and you don't have any lower energy things that are coming in, and then you get into what's called Focus 12.

Speaker 1:

And then they take you into problem solving, color, breathing energy, bar tool, remote viewing and the living body map. But I bring this up because it's been really freaking cool and I have never felt more like energetic and positive. But mostly I'm creating and doing things that I never thought I could do incredible.

Speaker 2:

So tell me more about this. The energy box, I mean, did you have to purchase something?

Speaker 1:

you know, what's cool is that you visualize this. So my, my box is yeah, yeah. So you're doing this exercise and in your mind, when you're laying down or sitting up and you're meditating, you go in and you visualize a box, your energy conversion conversion box. So mine, in my mind, looks like a silver box and I'll put in any worries, any concerns, anything I have in it, and I think what this program is designed to do is to make you kind of go outside of yourself and create these wonderful things, and a lot of that is visualization.

Speaker 2:

This is cool. I hope you're including a link in the podcast notes, in the show notes, for people to learn more about this, because I mean this would be extremely helpful. It sounds like it's been life-changing for you, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and the reason why I bring it up is because I'm not someone to hoard information and I know you're the same way. You're always posting tips and all this other stuff and I think that if I can share this and it can impact somebody, then I've done something great. But I absolutely will put together a document and links for it. But I would say, if you're looking to amp up your meditation, this is definitely it.

Speaker 2:

Okay, that's really cool, very cool.

Speaker 1:

Let's talk about the breaches and everything that's happening. I should have a punch card for every data breach that I'm a part of. What are your thoughts on all of these breaches? They seem to be happening every day.

Speaker 2:

You know, I think, as a consumer, it's really hard to care. I think, as a consumer, it's really hard to care and I know it's a bold statement because where this comes from is that you just get data breach fatigue. You say, oh, another one. And you can't keep them straight. Am I hearing about a new one, or was this something that happened and I already knew? And why is this one worse or quote unquote better than the previous one? I mean, don't you kind of get that feeling you're hearing about a breach every day? Isn't it just give you some sort of just fatigue about it all?

Speaker 1:

Oh, absolutely, and I'm thinking to myself it's a good thing I froze my credit, I'm changing my passwords because I've run out of passwords to use for my iPhone, for my Gmail, I've just like and we know this stuff because we're in the industry but the people out there Paige, I don't know, I don't know how to advise them, because they're just so frequent.

Speaker 2:

They are frequent to simplify the message enough where it is getting past just the cybersecurity profession or people within the certain business profession. Because why? You know, I just left a family gathering for, you know, an entire long weekend 35 family members. Why would my 34 family members, besides myself, care about the latest breach and what's happening? And we talked about it. We talked about it, but we talked it more about from an angle of scamming you. Okay, so there is a breach.

Speaker 2:

Now let's talk about and I'm talking to, I have a 12-year-old niece and a 10-year-old nephew, and you know what would.

Speaker 2:

If somebody got a hold of your name and try to impersonate you and had your let's say, oh, let's say your password to your, your email account, what would you do?

Speaker 2:

And hearing them think about and they're, and they're talking about this in front of the adults and hearing them walk through well, they could pretend like they're you and and oh, they could write an email and they could say that I need money and somebody would actually send it because they were friends with that person and then hearing the adults chime in and it's more of a conversation. I think that was a really more impactful angle, at least for my family circle and I imagine that would could be duplicated in other people's social and family circles around having the conversation versus fear-based fear, fear, fear, and kind of lead them to the next step, which is okay. Now there's this fear part, but what do we do about it and what can a person do and what are the steps that we can take to one realize that this is a scammer or something that's happening, and then what do we do to then protect ourselves?

Speaker 1:

And there's that opinion it's never going to happen to me and we're seeing that they're getting more sophisticated and I think this whole AI thing scares me. I really I don't like to have my picture on LinkedIn because I've seen some of these deep fake videos and I'm thinking if you say something that somebody doesn't like or somebody just wants to be nefarious, you're really putting yourself out there. That concerns me the most and scares me.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it scares me too, Really, what it's the reality now is you've got scammers with zero experience to a massive skill set when it comes to being able to fraud or commit fraud and run these scripts and programs and things like that. But now these tools are in the hands of anybody with a skill zero skill set to 100 on the radar of skill set. And that's what's so scary is because before you could really tell what was a scam and what wasn't, and now, because these tools are just readily available for anybody who wants to get them and use them. They all have to do is press a button and all of a sudden, now they're, like you were saying, the deep fakes or they are able to pull off more realistic looking scams, whether it's a call script or an email, whatever it is. And now you've got the level of what appears to be level of sophistication has gone up, but really it's just these tools are just more readily available now. So it's scary for the average consumer.

Speaker 1:

No, absolutely. And the AT&T thing. I was digging a little bit into that and I saw that they have retained some of the messages and I was laughing with some friends. I said, well, the only thing anybody's going to find out is I'm talking about dogs, time I'm going to eat, I'm going to work out, maybe sending some funny memes, but I'm very, very mindful of anything that I put in writing. And I think that where's the level of privacy as consumers? Where's the protection for that? And that's another concern.

Speaker 2:

Right, and I hear you when you say, okay, well, I'm not scared, because you're aware that when you're writing things that, yeah, somebody could be looking over my shoulder, I would say I would guess not.

Speaker 2:

A lot of people are that way. They're saying what they want to say and whether it's whatever mean-spirited, nice-spirited you know sarcasm, whatever it is, and it can be taken out of context. But if you look at it from a different angle not just the messages and themselves being exposed and the thread of emails and texts that are being exposed, but what about the fraudsters now that are learning who you talk to, how you talk to them, how often you reached out? Do you use punctuation or shorthand in your spelling, or do you spell everything out? Do you use emojis, those sort of things? Now, it's easy with AI to learn how you communicate, and so that's what's really hard and from if somebody my family member, husband is texting me or reaching out to me, I could definitely see where it'd be hard to differentiate a fraud or scam text versus a real one, because they know exactly how you talk, and so that's what scares me too.

Speaker 1:

That's a really good point, and I think I've seen some of that stuff online. Where people have they pretended to be like a parent or a child? Hey, I need $500. I'm here or I don't have a ride. So I think that is such an incredible point that you made Paige. I forgot all about that. You know, I just sometimes I wish we were back in the old days where we had those telephones that were connected to a cord, or the handless phones.

Speaker 2:

I mean everything we do is on our phones now, yeah Well, let me tell you, you know you're connected, way over connected. When you know I go to the Ozarks. I went tubing and my cousin was really giving us a run for our money on the tube. I was wearing my Apple Watch. You know where my Apple Watch is, at the bottom of the Ozarks.

Speaker 1:

Are you?

Speaker 2:

serious. I know I lost it. And so here I am, three days working out without an Apple Watch. And do you know, I had this weird feeling the first time I'm on a walk and it's just like this. You know that weird thing in your gut. Usually you know something worrying you or something happened.

Speaker 2:

I couldn't put my finger on exactly what was troubling me. Do you know what it was? When I finally got in touch with exactly what it was, it was the fact I was walking for free. I was walking for free and I wasn't wearing my Apple watch. That that is what was really. That was it was bothering me. It wasn't, it was. I didn't realize it was bothering me until I really connected with that and then, once I realized I put my finger on it, I said, ah, that's where that is coming from. So you talk about being connected. It's just like you can't even go on a walk anymore without making sure you have the technology to say that you actually did go for that walk. And I knew I had a problem For three days. I had to just get over it.

Speaker 1:

That is really bad when you're competing with people, because what you're doing is yeah, I really ran two miles today. No, you didn't. I don't see your activity. So, yeah, that kind of sucks.

Speaker 2:

That sucks, I know. And my one girlfriend goes yeah, oh, I didn't realize you lost your watch. I just I wonder what was going on. I wasn't getting your notifications. That's so terrible, I mean it's good from an accountability standpoint, but terrible when it's that's exactly what you're relying on to show you that you, you know you did a good job. Good job, paige, pat. I'm back.

Speaker 1:

You know I love having my watch on me because I have my phone and you know I live down here in the country Not really, but I've got coyotes and bobcats so I've got my Apple watch and I can make calls, I can call 911 if I need to. But I kind of feel like I have to be protected at all times when I'm out I always make sure I have my watch on, so I can only imagine how you feel not having that on.

Speaker 2:

I know, Well, you know, as of two days ago we were back in business and I'm no longer walking for free. So here we go.

Speaker 1:

There you go. What tips would you offer to our listeners, our consumers out there to stay cyber resilient?

Speaker 2:

You know, I, at the beginning of the summer, started this series on LinkedIn where every week I would talk about tips to prepare for summer travel. So it was a summer cyber tips series and started from pre trip to during your trip to post trip, and now we're on week eight. And it started from pre-trip to during your trip to post-trip, and now we're on week eight, and it's so hard to pinpoint exactly one or two things that you can do. But what I will say, and from a more alert perspective, is that whether you're pre-trip, post-trip, whatever it is, there are financial threshold notifications that you can add to your existing accounts. That make it really handy to be notified if you are a victim of some sort of fraud. Also, you can verify transactions, because you're actually making those transactions With all my credit cards.

Speaker 2:

I go into the notification settings and I choose a threshold, an amount. I go into the notification settings and I choose a threshold, an amount. Mine, personally, is $100. Anything that's charged over $100, if it's a international charge, if it's a card not present charge, which means it's online or nobody physically presented their card, I'm getting notified and I find that to be more comforting and I have caught fraud that way, but I'll double check my threshold before I go on a trip. But I'll double check my threshold before I go on a trip, but I'll definitely check it on the way back and just confirm that maybe I want to be more comfortable and I'll switch it down to lower a dollar amount just to be notified if somebody wants to get a hold of my card.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I would say that, absolutely. And I would say that one thing that I have learned is not to keep my wi-fi open. I'm traveling to a destination I don't want to be sending off. Hey, I'm here, I, I, you know, here's my device and somebody can hack into it because they're so sophisticated they could see if you're hooked up to the public wi-fi. So that's something I would tell people is they could see if you're hooked up to the public Wi-Fi. So that's something I would tell people is when you land, if you're traveling, be mindful of that. You don't want to be attracting nefarious people to your device.

Speaker 2:

Yes, and I take it a step further too. So I not only just turn off my Wi-Fi, so it's not probing for my known Wi-Fi access points, but I also, if I do to connect somewhere, even if I'm at a friend's house and I connect to their internet I'm at my parents or wherever I will actually forget that device when I leave. I've done it where I forgot to do it, boo-hoo. But if you could make it your routine when you leave is to forget that device. It's that same sort of thing you're saying, Melissa, which is, you're not constantly probing for that known access point and it's not giving away where you've been in the past to use that potentially against you and some sort of scam.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the other one is and I forgot about this is when I was traveling a lot before we would. I would can't speak for everybody, but I would hook my phone up to the Bluetooth of my rental car and the reminder was as soon as you get to the rental car place to drop off the car, make sure you disconnect. I can't tell you how many times I get into a car and there'd be Bob's phone, jane's phone, like there'd be 15 different devices. Still, they weren't connected, but it had their information there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I just tested that. Actually last week, when I was was in the Ozarks at a rental call and sure enough and it's first and last, because typically people's phones have their first and last name and sure enough their phones were still connected. Now I wasn't able to connect to their phone or make calls, but they're giving that away. None of them sync their contacts, so I wasn't able to see those. But that's certainly an option if you choose to connect your phone, and so it's just an extra step. You're right, an extra step to do when you're, when you're leaving. I know you're so excited to get back on that plane get back to real life.

Speaker 1:

But you've got to take those steps Absolutely, and we're going to publish that information when we put out the recording, because I think that's important for people and we have a lot of listeners. We've gained listeners around the globe and I think this is going to be pertinent to them. We assume at least I have in the past that everybody knows not to do that and busy executives, they just want to get on their plane and sometimes they forget. And I don't think it's a bad thing to put the information out there, even though it's like oh, we already know this. Well, you know what? Maybe this person over here does it.

Speaker 2:

Exactly, I'm with you. It doesn't hurt to just say the message, never know whose ear it might fall on and be helpful.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely so. Any concerts, any music, any movies, any updates on what you've listened to, what you saw, anything like that.

Speaker 2:

You know what? My only big update in that arena is that I re-signed up for SiriusXM in my vehicle and so the fact that I get my 90s on nine now instead of listening to the local radio makes me a happy camper. But no concerts on the horizon. But I, just, you know, have my solid, my nineties on nine.

Speaker 1:

What about?

Speaker 2:

you.

Speaker 1:

I was going to say you stepped into our century. I would say that there's a movie I want to see. I'm kind of on the fence. I had I think I shared that I like horror movies. So there's that Nicolas Cage movie out and I hear it's really scary. But that depends on who you're getting that information from. So I kind of want to see that. I started reading a book called Not Too Late the Power of Pushing Limits at Any Age from Gwendolyn Bounce, who's going to be a guest on here. That was coordinated by Mr Shannon Brewster, so we're excited to have her on the show, but that's a book that I just started diving into.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that's cool. Yeah, Mr Shannon Brewster, talk about an athlete man.

Speaker 1:

I loved that.

Speaker 2:

I loved that episode. That was such a great one.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, he does a lot of those athletic events out there and it's never too late to do things again. And I think there's been this stigma when you're over 40 or 50 or 60, hey, you got to slow down, you got to start walking. But I think now, as people are taking care of themselves, wellness is a priority. People are still doing uh, marathons and other things. So I think this is going to be an inspiring read and I can't wait to get her on the show to talk about it. I think this is going to be an inspiring read and I can't wait to get her on the show to talk about it.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that's going to be a great one. Yeah, I will definitely be picking that one up too. I think it's incredible and it's so true. I mean doesn't matter your age and what you want to accomplish or do, I mean you can do it. I mean even just from a career standpoint to you know people switching careers midlife, and it's okay, they can do it, they're successful.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely, and I think it's time that we take this paradigm shift and leave age out of it, because there's people that look really young and they're in their 60s or 70s and I really think that we need to just focus in on the capabilities, the talents, the expertise that people have and not, oh, I can't learn anything from you, or you know, you're too young or you're too old, and I think we really need to gravitate toward a kindness and compassionate society here, our culture here in America, where we can learn from each other, because I won't be the first to tell you I don't know everything and I don't want to know everything. I want to keep learning and I never want to be that person on a panel going well, I did this and I know everything and this is how it's supposed to go. That's not. That's not what we should be doing.

Speaker 2:

I know, I, I agree, and there's so much opportunity to learn. Like you said, you don't want to know everything because it doesn't matter who it is or where it's coming from. And yeah, you're, and I will say that you know, I'm in the Phoenix startup scene right now and there are so many incredible startup groups and support groups and people willing to help and connect and that's what they do and I found the community to be incredibly encouraging if you want to be a part of it, and I find it to be incredible, so I know, wherever you are, there's likely a community like that. Just go out and look for it. You're not going to find it by not thinking there's anything out there, because you ask and you, you'll find it.

Speaker 1:

There's that saying your vibe attracts your tribe, and I totally believe that because I've met so many awesome people in the last year when I started doing this podcast and you know I really really like learning from people and if I can help, I definitely want to do that. I definitely want to say hey, if I can give you advice, if you're looking for advice or I can make a connection, I want to do that because I know it comes full circle.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I knew that. Either on a trucker hat yes, a trucker hat, I said that or a shirt your vibe. I think that is such a great message. It'll go well with my puppies make me happy shirts that I wear almost every day. I'll just integrate the every once in a while. The tribe attracts your vibe, love it, or your vibe attracts your tribe yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I can't take credit for that. I don't remember who said it. It was maybe somebody I used to listen to Hay House radio. This is kind of how I started learning about law of attraction and other things but I think it was one of those gurus that said it and it kind of stuck with me and it didn't make sense to me at the time. But I'm like you know what, If I'm a crappy person, I'm going to attract crappy people. If I'm happy and love myself, I'm going to attract happy and people that are confident and kind.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, happy, and people that are confident and kind, yeah, and you can weed out the people in your circle or your network that doesn't have that match, that same vibe. That it's very apparent, real, real quick when you start having that mentality. So that resonates well with me, melissa. So thank you for sharing that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I'll leave this one last thought. I know it's a tough time out there for a lot of people, but I think when you meditate and you dig deeper and maybe go into the gateway experience, you really do see that you can have anything you want in this life and you really can create change. Your kindness to someone is a ripple effect out into the universe and I think that if we can people out there today oh, I'm never going to get this, I'm never going to get that. Well, guess what? You just programmed yourself, your higher conscious, to give you just that.

Speaker 1:

I tell people, even myself, I remind myself don't be negative, don't complain, because the universe is obedient. It's going to be like Melissa doesn't, you know, feel good, or you know, she says she doesn't feel good. We're going to make her not feel good more and more. I get up every day and I express gratitude for the little things, like a cup of tea, that I had a good night's sleep, things like that, and I hope that's what this podcast can help people do is find the happiness in these crazy times.

Speaker 2:

You're amazing, Melissa. Thanks for keeping this podcast going. It's certainly been helpful for me in my wellness journey and just in general. So you rock.

Speaker 1:

And so do you. And you know Paige is going to be a contributor with the podcast because we like to have her on, so this isn't the last time you'll hear from Paige. We're going to wrap it up. I will get some notes out there. I will publish the information from Paige. Don't forget to subscribe to our podcast on a variety of platforms and check out our website that is under construction. Take care, and thanks for tuning in.

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